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  • gorgoiler 8 hours ago
    The right device at the right time can spur all kinds of revolutions. Sous vide water bath cooking was based on a laboratory immersion heaters, the WRT54g router spawned OpenWRT et al., commodity arc welders became a key part of carbon 60 research, XBox Kinect sensors got repurposed for all sorts of proximity hacks. The recent fad for particular brands of child oriented power banks in the through hiking community is the most recent one I can think of.

    So therefore it’s a long shot, but this device or a device like it could be the mutation that causes a Cambrian explosion in mobile hardware, albeit one where you ahen apparently need to glue the screen on yourself, post delivery. (See the below-fold video.)

    I cross every one of my fingers!

    • Philpax 1 hour ago
      > The right device at the right time can spur all kinds of revolutions.

      But can they run Half-Life 2?

    • russdill 5 hours ago
      Seems like there's still a bit of work to go:

      1. The device restarts after running for a while after Wi-Fi is enabled. The problem may be due to insufficient power supply. 2. Overheating: The chip may overheat and restart.

    • redundantly 7 hours ago
      > The recent fad for particular brands of child oriented power banks in the through hiking community is the most recent one I can think of.

      This sounds interesting. Can you elaborate?

    • Toony 5 hours ago
      >The right device at the right time can spur all kinds of revolutions.

      for me it's 11" tablet, I'm saving for this. prey for me y'all.

    • nine_k 8 hours ago
      Now it needs a 4G / 5G modem, and a camera, and it could be a compact phone,
  • thenthenthen 5 days ago
    Just found this Chinese Open Source HardWare site and wanted to share this cute project with you.
  • plipt 6 hours ago
    Site says it runs Linux

    Does anyone have insights on how compatible that hardware might be? Or how it might compare to something like a Pinetab?

    For some years I have been looking for a low cost tablet with good Linux support for use in home automation or information displays. Surprised there is still nothing like this in the Raspberry Pi ecosystem.

    • NewJazz 4 hours ago
      Pinetab 2 is the very similar rk3566 chip, so support would be somewhat similar (probably a lityle worse, since the device trees haven't had as much attention).
  • tuetuopay 3 hours ago
    What I find most impressive is the design was made using EasyEDA, JLC's web PCB design tool, and only on a four layer board. That BGA with DDR4 on 4 layers is something!
    • ACCount37 2 hours ago
      Why people actually use those clunky web-based tools is beyond me. It's like using a normal design tool but worse in every conceivable way.
      • IgorPartola 1 hour ago
        I tried to start with KiCAD so many times and never could fully figure out how to do the basics of what I wanted to do. Mind you I was designing absolutely basic boards using capacitors, MOSFETs, resistors, some basic SMD sensors and ESP8266 modules. EasyEDA has a downloadable version that is significantly less clunky and the UI makes a lot of sense to an amateur. Plus of all the things I had tried it had me spend the least time finding footprints for components that were actually available and affordable. Nothing quite like picking out a capacitor just to find out that it costs $0.84/each while an equivalent but slightly different one would be $0.0037/each.
        • ACCount37 46 minutes ago
          Oh, KiCAD's old UI was fucked. If you started on, like, KiCAD 4.0, then I can see why you bounced right off it. Today's UI is good, so I actually recommend starting on that over something like EasyEDA.

          Footprints are a point in EasyEDA's favor, but in simple circuits, almost all footprints are universal. If you want a 10K+5% resistor, you just put in a 0402 (maybe larger if you're planning on hand soldering it) and pick the exact part afterwards.

      • dsvf 1 hour ago
        I keep wanting to get into Kicad, and the learning curve did become easier in the last years. But what I _want_ is to get a usable board into my hands, not just create a beautiful layout file. Historically, my pain points were were footprints, parts sourcing and SMT soldering. From a hobbyist-with-limited-time perspective, EasyEDA and the integrated JLCPCB assembly flow solved all these problems good enough that the hurdle to figure out how to do it with KiCAD was always higher. The minute I find a similar level of convenience in KiCAD + plugins, I'll gladly ditch being tied to online.
      • Renaud 2 hours ago
        Is it though? EasyEDA is more than sufficient for most uses that don’t require large amounts of layers or components. It’s easy to pickup by a novice, has basic ERC, well integrated into LCSC ecosystem.

        It doesn’t have the versatility of KiCAD but is lighter and easier for light use or occasional design of moderate complexity.

    • fainpul 2 hours ago
      What worries me is that a lot of resistors / capacitors are placed at seemingly arbitrary angles. It looks messy and unprofessional. I wouldn't be surprised if this has many electrical problems due to amateurish PCB design.
  • tty456 6 hours ago
    How does one get a board like this one made?
    • tuetuopay 3 hours ago
      Send it to JLCPCB + JLCSMT. The board was made with EasyEDAY (JLC's web PCB tool) which has a one-click "manufacture" button.
  • wronglebowski 7 hours ago
    The RK3568 is an interesting choice, why no the H700 or something with a good amount of mainline kernel support already?
    • le-mark 5 hours ago
      I don’t know about the h700, but some of those allwinner chips used to be super cheap around Covid. I checked and didn’t find prices? Does anyone know where the price is now?
    • NewJazz 4 hours ago
      Rk3568 doesn't have good mainline support??
  • VerifiedReports 7 hours ago
    What about it? The site's in Chinese.
  • sciencesama 8 hours ago
    21 usd
    • j16sdiz 5 hours ago
      The comment section say they were using second hand component. Basically salvage yard parts.
      • j16sdiz 5 hours ago
        also, they were taking advantage of free sampling of JLCPCB in China. The main pcb is basically free
    • chvid 6 hours ago
      That is an incredible price.
      • karlkloss 4 hours ago
        Add transport, tariffs and vat, and you could as well buy a cheap Android tablet from Walmart.
        • SahAssar 1 hour ago
          Do you know of a cheap android tablet with a ~4" screen? Cause I don't see those too often.
          • zamadatix 29 minutes ago
            It's like trying to find a bus with 4 seats - it won't usually be called a tablet if it's so small (usually ~7" is the cutover).
            • SahAssar 11 minutes ago
              Regardless of what you call it, can you find a cheap device similar to the the one described in the article?