Perhaps I have been not talking to voice models that much or the chatgpt voice always felt weird and off because I was thinking it goes to a cloud server and everything but from Pocket TTS I discovered unmute.sh which is open source and I think is from the same company as Pocket TTS/can I think use Pocket TTS as well
I saw some agentic models at 4B or similar which can punch above its weights or even some basic models. I can definitely see them in the context of home lab without costing too much money.
I think atleast unmute.sh is similar/competed with chatgpt's voice model. It's crazy how good and (effective) open source models are from top to bottom. There's basically just about anything for almost everyone.
I feel like the only true moat might exist in coding models. Some are pretty good but its the only industry where people might pay 10x-20x more for the best (minimax/z.ai subscription fees vs claude code)
It will be interesting to see if we will see another deepseek moment in AI which might beat claude sonnet or similar. I think Deepseek has deepseek 4 so it will be interesting to see how/if it can beat sonnet
It says MIT license but then readme has a separate section on prohibited use that maybe adds restrictions to make it nonfree? Not sure the legal implications here.
For reference, the MIT license contains this text: "Permission is hereby granted... to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use". So the README containing a "Prohibited Use" section definitely creates a conflicting statement.
If memory serves, the license is the ultimate source of truth on what is allowed or not. You cannot add some section that isn't in the text of the license (at least in the US and other countries that use similar legal systems) on some website and expect it to hold up in court because the license doesn't include that text. I know of a few other bigger-name projects that try to pull these kinds of stunts because they don't believe anyone is going to actually read the text of the license.
Oh this is sweet, thanks for sharing! I've been a huge fan of Kokoro and event setup my own fully-local voice assistant [1]. Will definitely give Pocket TTS a go!
It seems like Kokoro is the smaller model, also runs on CPU in real time, and is more open and fine tunable. More scripts and extensions, etc., whereas this is new and doesn't have any fine tuning code yet.
Zero shot voice clones have never been very good. Fine tuned models hit natural speaker similarity and prosody in a way zero shot models can't emulate.
If it were a big model and was trained on a diverse set of speakers and could remember how to replicate them all, then zero shot is a potentially bigger deal. But this is a tiny model.
I'll try out the zero shot functionality of Pocket TTS and report back.
So, on my M1 mac, did `uvx pocket-tts serve`. Plugged in
> It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of
wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way—in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only
(Beginning of Tale of Two Cities)
but the problem is Javert skips over parts of sentences! Eg, it starts:
> "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of
wisdom, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, ..."
Notice how it skips over "it was the age of foolishness,", "it was the winter of despair,"
Which... Doesn't exactly inspire faith in a TTS system.
I echo this. For a TTS system to be in any way useful outside the tiny population of the world that speaks exclusively English, it must be multilingual and dynamically switch between languages pretty much per word.
That's a pretty crazy requirement for something to be "useful" especially something that runs so efficiently on cpu. Many content creators from non-english speaking countries can benefit from this type of release by translating transcripts of their content to english and then running it through a model like this to dub their videos in a language that can reach many more people.
Uh, no? This is not at all an absurd requirement? Screen readers literally do this all the time, with voices that are the classic way of making a speech synthesizer, no AI required. ESpeak is an example, or MS OneCore. The NVDA screen reader has an option for automatic language switching as does pretty much every other modern screen reader in existence. And absolutely none of these use AI models to do that switching, either.
You mean youtubers? And have to (manually) synchronise the text to their video, and especially when youtube apparently offers voice-voice translation out of the box to my and many others' annoyance?
But it wouldn't be for those who "speak exclusively English", rather, for those who speak English. Not only that but it's also common to have system language set to English, even if one's language is different.
There's about 1.5B English speakers in the planet.
Let's indeed limit the use case to the system language, let's say of a mobile phone.
You pull up a map and start navigation. All the street names are in the local language, and no, transliterating the local names to the English alphabet does not make them understandable when spoken by TTS. And not to mention localised foreign names which then are completely mangled by transliterating them to English.
You pull up a browser, open up an news article in your local language to read during your commute. You now have to reach for a translation model first before passing the data to the English-only TTS software.
You're driving, one of your friends Signals you. Your phone UI is in English, you get a notification (interrupting your Spotify) saying 'Signal message', followed by 5 minutes of gibberish.
But let's say you have a TTS model that supports your local language natively. Well due to the fact that '1.5B English speakers' apparently exist in the planet, many texts in other languages include English or Latin names and words. Now you have the opposite issue -- your TTS software needs to switch to English to pronounce these correctly...
And mind you, these are just very simple use cases for TTS. If you delve into use cases for people with limited sight that experience the entire Internet, and all mobile and desktop applications (often having poor localisation) via TTS you see how mono-lingual TTS is mostly useless and would be switched for a robotic old-school TTS in a flash...
> only that but it's also common to have system language set to English
Ask a German whether their system language is English. Ask a French person. I can go on.
I love that everyone is making their own TTS model as they are not as expensive as many other models to train. Also there are plenty of different architecture.
>If you want access to the model with voice cloning, go to https://huggingface.co/kyutai/pocket-tts and accept the terms, then make sure you're logged in locally with `uvx hf auth login`
lol
I saw some agentic models at 4B or similar which can punch above its weights or even some basic models. I can definitely see them in the context of home lab without costing too much money.
I think atleast unmute.sh is similar/competed with chatgpt's voice model. It's crazy how good and (effective) open source models are from top to bottom. There's basically just about anything for almost everyone.
I feel like the only true moat might exist in coding models. Some are pretty good but its the only industry where people might pay 10x-20x more for the best (minimax/z.ai subscription fees vs claude code)
It will be interesting to see if we will see another deepseek moment in AI which might beat claude sonnet or similar. I think Deepseek has deepseek 4 so it will be interesting to see how/if it can beat sonnet
(Sorry for going offtopic)
Just made it an MCP server so claude can tell me when it's done with something :)
https://github.com/Marviel/speak_when_done
It says MIT license but then readme has a separate section on prohibited use that maybe adds restrictions to make it nonfree? Not sure the legal implications here.
If a license says "you may use this, you are prohibited from using this", and I use it, did I break the license?
[1] https://github.com/acatovic/ova
For voice cloning, pocket tts is walled so I can't tell
It seems like Kokoro is the smaller model, also runs on CPU in real time, and is more open and fine tunable. More scripts and extensions, etc., whereas this is new and doesn't have any fine tuning code yet.
I couldn't tell an audio quality difference.
If it were a big model and was trained on a diverse set of speakers and could remember how to replicate them all, then zero shot is a potentially bigger deal. But this is a tiny model.
I'll try out the zero shot functionality of Pocket TTS and report back.
So, on my M1 mac, did `uvx pocket-tts serve`. Plugged in
> It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way—in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only
(Beginning of Tale of Two Cities)
but the problem is Javert skips over parts of sentences! Eg, it starts:
> "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, ..."
Notice how it skips over "it was the age of foolishness,", "it was the winter of despair,"
Which... Doesn't exactly inspire faith in a TTS system.
(Marius seems better; posted https://github.com/kyutai-labs/pocket-tts/issues/38)
Cool tech demo though!
There's about 1.5B English speakers in the planet.
You pull up a map and start navigation. All the street names are in the local language, and no, transliterating the local names to the English alphabet does not make them understandable when spoken by TTS. And not to mention localised foreign names which then are completely mangled by transliterating them to English.
You pull up a browser, open up an news article in your local language to read during your commute. You now have to reach for a translation model first before passing the data to the English-only TTS software.
You're driving, one of your friends Signals you. Your phone UI is in English, you get a notification (interrupting your Spotify) saying 'Signal message', followed by 5 minutes of gibberish.
But let's say you have a TTS model that supports your local language natively. Well due to the fact that '1.5B English speakers' apparently exist in the planet, many texts in other languages include English or Latin names and words. Now you have the opposite issue -- your TTS software needs to switch to English to pronounce these correctly...
And mind you, these are just very simple use cases for TTS. If you delve into use cases for people with limited sight that experience the entire Internet, and all mobile and desktop applications (often having poor localisation) via TTS you see how mono-lingual TTS is mostly useless and would be switched for a robotic old-school TTS in a flash...
> only that but it's also common to have system language set to English
Ask a German whether their system language is English. Ask a French person. I can go on.
Another recent example: https://github.com/supertone-inc/supertonic
https://huggingface.co/spaces/Supertone/supertonic-2
It seems like it is being trained by one person, and it is surprisingly natural for such a small model.
I remember when TTS always meant the most robotic, barely comprehensible voices.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1qcusnt/soprano...
https://huggingface.co/ekwek/Soprano-1.1-80M