Ask HN: What are forgotten topics in computing that deserve a new revisit?

I mean both things that are enabled by AI coding agents but also things we couldn't do because computers weren't fast enough in the past.

38 points | by draxen 13 hours ago

22 comments

  • codingdave 1 hour ago
    HCI (Human-Computer Interaction), as an overall subject matter area. Keyboards and screen and mobile devices... they all grew incrementally from what came before, and people are used to it, but we can do better.

    The AI-driven work these days has not actually re-imagined much. We're doing the same stuff, putting the same UIs on the same screens as we were before AI. It is faster, and the content is changing, but not the core interactions with devices. Do we need to output to screens? Do we need keyboards and mice and digital keyboards on phone as input mechanisms?

    People are dabbling in VR and AR, and voice control. We're using watches a bit. And those are interesting directions, but some (VR and AR, mostly) of that hardware requirements comes with the baggage of awkward experiences and societal stigma, and often prohibitive costs for non-wealthy consumers.

    I don't have the answers, I'd just encourage everybody to really ask yourself - is the goal I'm trying to achieve best solved by defaulting to the same "put it on a screen" UX as before, or can we do something completely new?

  • mickeyp 9 hours ago
    Pascal.

    Like, all of it. People who decry it think of Wirth's original implementation but never the decades of (admittedly slow, Delphi was hardly blazing trails here...) improvements so they think it sucks. Pascal is great.

    With AI, I think it's a future worth exploring. Great low-level and efficient string handling, unlike C.

    Stupendously fast compiler and linker, and it generates code that's near C++/C/Rust performance with relative ease. Cram more useful features into it; keep the memory and pointer system as it is; add more useful language concepts from other places. Hell, strap an optional GC into it for things where you don't care.

    • ravenstine 2 hours ago
      Maybe I just got off on the wrong foot with Pascal. That was the one language I learned in school that I truly hated. At this point I don't really remember what implementation/compiler we used, but whatever it was definitely was pre-Delphi.
    • rramadass 8 hours ago
      Nice.

      Brinch Hansen on Pascal Compilers - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24913959

      I am still in awe of Niklaus Wirth's Project Oberon: The Design of an Operating System and Compiler which includes source for everything from the hardware up and that too in a reasonable sized book - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38869366 (this is the revised 2013 edition, get also the older 1992 edition which contains everything).

      When browsers made their appearance as a "platform", i thought this is how they would be implemented, small, tight, fast, fully functional and everything running on a abstract machine. Instead we got the garbage that we have today.

  • fwlr 9 hours ago
    “Space/time tradeoffs” I guess would be the name of it. Memory latency and bandwidth trails op/s of the CPU - operations beat fetches by ~2 orders of magnitude; memory complicates both SIMD and parallelism across cores which is another ~1 order of magnitude each. The back of the envelope suggests we left a 25,000x speedup factor on the table because our systems and tools and intuitions have converged on load-op-store-load-op-store, instead of load-op-op-op-[…]-op-op-store.
  • romesmoke 9 hours ago
    It is well past due time to revisit memory allocation from first principles. I recently finished my PhD on the topic, and realized that we have yet to agree on a consistent definition of fragmentation (see Wilson et al's seminal survey on "Dynamic Storage Allocation"), much less how to deal with it.

    When I was in the trenches, I had constant cognitive dissonance against the fact that (i) "it's a solved problem" and (ii) low-to-no-malloc was often presented as a feature of low-level code.

    My take is, train a SOTA deep learning system on solved static memory allocation instances (which is NP-complete already) and build a dynamic malloc on top.

    To see where the static SOTA was a couple years ago, see this: https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.04874

    And also my general audience-friendly presentation of it: https://cappadokes.github.io/jekyll/update/2025/07/16/welcom...

    Disclaimer: I've moved on past academia and I may have missed one or two breakthroughs. But the older the problem, the higher the probability of it staying open.

    • mickeyp 9 hours ago
      I'm not sure anybody has ever felt memory allocation was a solved problem. But more that it's a difficult one to do well for everybody.

      You can build fancy balancing trees, heaps and all sorts to try and counteract fragmentation, but then you risk messing up cache coherency and you may spend a lot of time doing tedious busywork that can hold up real work.

      What we have now is subobtimal for sure. Particularly if you come along and allocate huge swathes of memory in userland and then release it, only to re-alloc it. Huge page tables help a lot here, from the user/kernel side of things. But of course that is also not a perfect solution. Most apps don't want huge page tables as they don't map well onto normal things like browsing and listening to music. And so it goes; round and round.

    • austin-cheney 8 hours ago
      I completely agree. In August I discovered the key to faster data transmission is better memory management. This allowed me to write a common protocol library in TypeScript that is about 35x faster than the current fastest implementation.

      Due to a defect in my perf tool I eventually discovered that about 99.2% of processing time was spent on memory management, not instruction processing or network buffer. I was working in a high level garbage collected language, so I could not fine tune adjustments to pointers. Instead I got creative with call stack management and low level data frame header authoring. Now I am trying to replicate that success back to a low level http 1.1 implementation and it’s much more challenging.

    • bjourne 6 hours ago
      I think I have a very simple fix that solves fragmentation. Force the size of every buffer and every array to be a power of two. What do you think?
      • romesmoke 4 hours ago
        I think your fix suffers from severe internal fragmentation.
  • chubot 9 hours ago
    Operating system design, and distributed operating system design (k8s falls well short of a distributed OS; it’s more like a toolkit that does the compute part)
    • rramadass 4 hours ago
      Right. Before the web took off i believed distributed OSes (eg. Amaoeba, Plan 9, Inferno etc.) along with all sorts of OO middleware (eg. CORBA, DCOM etc.) would become the "standard" way to do distributed network computing.

      Had that happened we wouldn't be wasting so much hardware today (old smartphones/tablets/laptops/etc.) but could have leveraged it all in a unified private network. Every single computer in my home would be now part of a distributed computing platform managed by a distributed OS.

      The irony is that today the entire Cloud architecture viz. Docker, Kubernetes, REST etc. frameworks are actually recreating the above design!

  • muzani 9 hours ago
    Evolutionary programming. Very suited to goals and agentic stuff. I'd be surprised if it's not yet in production somewhere.

    Procedurally generated content is also a lot more interesting. Without structure, you get slop.

    You can set the beginning of a story and an ending, as well as a story contour. Then procedurally generate content that ends at these points, even if they seem to veer away.

    Metaprogramming for similar reasons, things like writing scripts/languages for very specific problems.

    There's good techniques for all these, but the ROI was too low compared to the returns. It was difficult to write tests for the output space, but now it's a lot simpler.

  • qtqtqt 11 hours ago
  • iamdamian 11 hours ago
    Plan 9 was cool.
    • krapp 11 hours ago
      The plan involving the raising of the dead?
  • FDEUp 11 hours ago
    Computer Lib / Dream Machines

    Xanadu

  • hulitu 8 hours ago
    GUIs, quality, digital garbage: every version of a program is incompatible with the one before and require a new toochain to build and run, bloat
  • rramadass 10 hours ago
    All types of unconventional/exotic computing. I think this has been criminally neglected ever since the ascendancy of the von neumann architecture digital computer.

    1) The Zen of Exotic Computing by Peter Kogge - https://epubs.siam.org/doi/10.1137/1.9781611977295

    2) Handbook Of Unconventional Computing in 2-vols (Vol1-Theory, Vol2- Implementations) by Andrew Adamatzky et al. - https://www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/12232#...

  • jackb4040 12 hours ago
    Lisp Machines. And if you're a real freak, Forth Machines
  • bjourne 7 hours ago
    Asynchronous digital design!
  • y-curious 10 hours ago
    Languages not made for people that are optimized for tuned LLMs
    • zamalek 9 hours ago
      What year does this forgotten concept come from, the 80s?
  • mannyv 11 hours ago
    Analog computing
  • vrighter 11 hours ago
    what fast and performant really means.
  • nwhnwh 11 hours ago
    Love
  • gulugawa 12 hours ago
    Coding without LLM AI.
  • soon_to_be_sb 11 hours ago
    How about giving a shit about efficiency?
  • arslan947 10 hours ago
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  • aaron695 11 hours ago
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  • thakoppno 12 hours ago
    tech debt