Scriptable GeoDNS: Leaving AWS for Bunny

(vincent.bernat.ch)

48 points | by sshah03 4 hours ago

6 comments

  • askbjoernhansen 3 hours ago
    The "cloud provider rates" for this are a bit crazy. It's great bunny.net is offering a (more flexible!) product basically for free.

    The NTP Pool does ~1m dns queries a second on the hourly peak with a small-ish (old) Go program (called `geodns`) running on a bunch of mostly small VMs around the world. The average is much less, but paying $0.70/million for ~11 billion queries a day would be a lot of money for a "random volunteers on the internet" project at "cloud provider rates".

  • arm32 3 hours ago
    Bunny's scriptable DNS is something I geek out so hard over. Bunny's DNS products in general, actually, are highly underrated. Kevin, my offer still stands to come work on it! :P
  • whinvik 3 hours ago
    I actually went and looked at the linked Terraform blog post and I realized something.

    It mentions that you used CDKTF because you prefer its expressiveness. The actual TF is generated from CDKTF. Having struggled with understanding and writing TF in the past, now, I don't really have to care with agents. I let them rip, then just read the plan output.

    I am sure we will find more such examples where we can rip out an intermediate step completely because of agents.

    • miyuru 2 hours ago
      btw CDKTF was deprecated on December, 2025.

      I liked it but, it was a hassle to get it running.

      • vbernat 2 hours ago
        There is a community fork: CDK Terrain (https://cdktn.io/).
      • tootubular 2 hours ago
        Yes, same experience here. Was also a breeze to go from CDKTF TypeScript to TF HCL and shed a substantial number of dependencies as a result. Very happy with where it's at today, but also happy I came in through CDKTF.
  • temp0826 3 hours ago
    Hasn't stuff like this been solved with anycast and typical routing algorithms of old etc? Or is this solving a different problem? (This doesn't affect me but have been considering moving some stuff from aws/cloudflare to bunny)
    • vbernat 2 hours ago
      Some hobbyists do anycast on their own, but this is more complex. See https://tylerobrien.dev/posts/2022/06/28/building-an-anycast... for example. This also require some advanced traffic engineering: what looks close for BGP may be on the other side of the planet. Relying on DNS only is more accessible.
    • cortesoft 1 hour ago
      I worked for a CDN that ran using anycast for 10 years, and there are a LOT of gotchas and trade offs that make it complicated to use.

      For one, your ability to control traffic flow is limited to very coarse knobs, since where your traffic lands is dependent entirely on the BGP routes you advertise and who you advertise them to.

      The basic idea of BGP is that you advertise the same IP blocks to multiple peers, and then every other network will choose the destination that is the least number of ‘hops’ away. However, hops are not always a perfect representation of the fastest, or even closest, destination. Sometimes a hop travels a far distance, or is over a slow or congested link. Sure, one connection might be 2 hops instead of 3, but if those two hops are slow the route with “more” hops might actually be faster.

      You can solve this with a lot of different tricks, such as adding extra fake hops to your announcements in certain places, but you still have to be constantly monitoring the route traffic is taking to make sure your traffic continues to take the best route.

      Secondly, there is no easy way to distribute traffic from a single network to multiple destinations for load balancing purposes. Every request coming from a particular network is going to make the same anycast calculation, so it will send all requests to the same destination. If you want to split that up into two different destinations, you have to go back to using DNS tricks or using different destinations IPs to split traffic up.

      We would do this sort of load management by dividing traffic onto different IP blocks, and then dynamically advertising or not advertising those blocks from datacenters depending on load. If one datacenter is becoming overloaded, you pull some blocks from the advertisements for that datacenter, and that traffic stops being routed there.

      There are a ton of other factors that go into it, but the bottom line is that anycast is not a simple fix to this problem.

      • temp0826 49 minutes ago
        I guess I'm just confused on who the actual target for this is (running your blog on 7 different servers around the world is uh...something...but I wouldn't call it practical/realistic). I wouldn't think that this type of thing is the first thing you reach for if your situation is actually calling for geobalancing (what level of the stack should this problem be solved, is maybe closer to what I'm asking).
    • PaoloBarbolini 3 hours ago
      Very few providers offer anycast. It's also kind of simpler to take servers from multiple providers and have DNS be the integration layer between all of those.
      • dotwaffle 2 minutes ago
        > Very few providers offer anycast.

        Huh? Most of them offer anycast... Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say with this?

  • uneekname 3 hours ago
    > I run seven small NixOS virtual machines to host this blog around the world

    Wow!

  • arm32 3 hours ago
    Vincent, I love your map design on the blog post!
    • vbernat 2 hours ago
      Thanks. I spent a non-trivial time just on the little animations!
      • sshah03 2 hours ago
        Both the animations and the content made it one of my favorite posts of the week. Hope you don't mind me sharing for you.
        • vbernat 38 minutes ago
          Happy to hear that! I don't mind at all.